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ah, the paradox that is letterboxing....

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ah, the paradox that is letterboxing....

From: Doodle & Deedle Bug (doodle_n_deedle@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-05-18 09:33:50 UTC-07:00


My reflections....merely reflections. On one hand, newer searchers want to learn, to hunt, to be the best at the hobby that they can be. To jump in with both feet as quickly as possible. But true, to be good takes experience and time. Although Deedle & I have only found 10 boxes (as compared to people in the 100 + club) we can already tell just how much better we are at interpretting clues. We enjoy and reflect on everything we learn the more we go out & search (ie, ALWAYS take water with you, no matter how short a search you think it will be!). On one hand, some would probably consider us still newbies with a small found count, only been actively searching for about a month now. On the other hand (and I now have three hands, but I AM a doodle bug) we did find out about the hobby about six months ago, and we spent those months learning about stamp carving and where to find clues and what's "expected" when you find a box (and waiting for Ohio's snow to melt). So who's to say
when one leaves "newbie" status and becomes an "elder"...from our experiences on the trails, it's more of an internal journey. Moving from "newbie" to "experienced" is something that you must determine yourself, no one else can for you. You can't necessarily go by number count -- one person may have found 50 boxes, another only 15, but if every one of those 15 were mystery boxes with hard-to-decipher clues as opposed to the 50 more-easily interpretted clues, who has the more experience? And on another hand ;), if you rush to get that high count you miss what I've interpretted the whole point of letterboxing really should be...not to find hidden rubber containers and fill up your logbook, but to explore new places you would never think of, or didn't know existed.

But the real paradox I find about letterboxing is getting started and the secret nature of boxing. In the spirit of letterboxing, one might think that someone who truly "gets it" would appreciate the hunt for the hows and whys of the hobby. But, it's also nice to have mentors, people to help you when you're not sure where to find the answers. That doesn't mean spoon-feed, but point us in the right direction. I'm greatful to everyone who has helped Deedle & me get started in letterboxing. If it really were as much of an undercover, secret society as I've inferred from some posts on this list, then what's really the point? Letterboxing is social, otherwise why would there be so many letterbox gatherings? Because we do want to meet each other and hear each other's tales. The more people who letterbox, the more people to meet. As someone put it in a previous post, we really do need to help pull people up with us. Otherwise it will be very lonely at the top. That doens't mean
drag them along, but point them in the direction so they can get their on their own.

And that brings to the final paradox, if everything about letterboxing is a hidden mystery, how does one even find out about letterboxing to get started in the first place? :) (Ours was that we stumbled upon a clue in cyberspace)

Now everyone hold hands and sing Kumbaya! (Oooh, has anyone done a Kumbaya letterbox yet?)

Doodle Bug.




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Re: ah, the paradox that is letterboxing....

From: edwebbe (edwebbe@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-05-18 17:52:59 UTC
Although Deedle & I have only found 10 boxes (as compared to people
in the 100 + club)

Letterboxing is many different things to different people. I
have always preferred quality over quantity. But I must say it is
intimidating to be on this big list with my small F and P-ness.

y-nought


Re: ah, the paradox that is letterboxing....

From: Jayme (paulandjayme.duggan@verizon.net) | Date: 2004-05-19 00:06:07 UTC
Very well put, Doodle bug. By the way, just how many hands do you
have?

PJTJP



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Doodle & Deedle Bug
wrote:
>
>
> My reflections....merely reflections. On one hand, newer
searchers want to learn, to hunt, to be the best at the hobby that
they can be. To jump in with both feet as quickly as possible. But
true, to be good takes experience and time. Although Deedle & I
have only found 10 boxes (as compared to people in the 100 + club)
we can already tell just how much better we are at interpretting
clues. We enjoy and reflect on everything we learn the more we go
out & search (ie, ALWAYS take water with you, no matter how short a
search you think it will be!). On one hand, some would probably
consider us still newbies with a small found count, only been
actively searching for about a month now. On the other hand (and I
now have three hands, but I AM a doodle bug) we did find out about
the hobby about six months ago, and we spent those months learning
about stamp carving and where to find clues and what's "expected"
when you find a box (and waiting for Ohio's snow to melt). So who's
to say
> when one leaves "newbie" status and becomes an "elder"...from our
experiences on the trails, it's more of an internal journey. Moving
from "newbie" to "experienced" is something that you must determine
yourself, no one else can for you. You can't necessarily go by
number count -- one person may have found 50 boxes, another only 15,
but if every one of those 15 were mystery boxes with hard-to-
decipher clues as opposed to the 50 more-easily interpretted clues,
who has the more experience? And on another hand ;), if you rush to
get that high count you miss what I've interpretted the whole point
of letterboxing really should be...not to find hidden rubber
containers and fill up your logbook, but to explore new places you
would never think of, or didn't know existed.
>
> But the real paradox I find about letterboxing is getting started
and the secret nature of boxing. In the spirit of letterboxing, one
might think that someone who truly "gets it" would appreciate the
hunt for the hows and whys of the hobby. But, it's also nice to
have mentors, people to help you when you're not sure where to find
the answers. That doesn't mean spoon-feed, but point us in the
right direction. I'm greatful to everyone who has helped Deedle &
me get started in letterboxing. If it really were as much of an
undercover, secret society as I've inferred from some posts on this
list, then what's really the point? Letterboxing is social,
otherwise why would there be so many letterbox gatherings? Because
we do want to meet each other and hear each other's tales. The more
people who letterbox, the more people to meet. As someone put it in
a previous post, we really do need to help pull people up with us.
Otherwise it will be very lonely at the top. That doens't mean
> drag them along, but point them in the direction so they can get
their on their own.
>
> And that brings to the final paradox, if everything about
letterboxing is a hidden mystery, how does one even find out about
letterboxing to get started in the first place? :) (Ours was that
we stumbled upon a clue in cyberspace)
>
> Now everyone hold hands and sing Kumbaya! (Oooh, has anyone done
a Kumbaya letterbox yet?)
>
> Doodle Bug.
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
> SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price.
>
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Re: [LbNA] Re: ah, the paradox that is letterboxing....

From: dave & diane (vonderinsel@cox.net) | Date: 2004-05-19 07:31:05 UTC-04:00
Activity is good for F- & P-ness enlargement.

Okay, so it's been said before...

Dave
The von der Insels
P9 F177 X93 H4 E1
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From: edwebbe
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:52 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: ah, the paradox that is letterboxing....


Although Deedle & I have only found 10 boxes (as compared to people
in the 100 + club)

Letterboxing is many different things to different people. I
have always preferred quality over quantity. But I must say it is
intimidating to be on this big list with my small F and P-ness.

y-nought


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Re: ah, the paradox that is letterboxing....

From: Warrior Woman (warrioringilead@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-05-19 12:59:17 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Doodle & Deedle Bug
wrote:

> Now everyone hold hands and sing Kumbaya! (Oooh, has anyone done a
Kumbaya letterbox yet?)
>
> Doodle Bug.

I don't know, but it's a great inspiration! It would be the Yin to
my "The Great Flame War Series" yang (also inspired by the
discussions in here).

Warrior Woman
(who has found more than 100, placed more than 25, exchanged more
than 100, has been boxing since 2001, has been to more than 4 events,
and who still considers herself a newbie and always will because I
learn something new every time I go out and box)


Re: [LbNA] Re: ah, the paradox that is letterboxing....

From: Doodle & Deedle Bug (doodle_n_deedle@yahoo.com) | Date: 2004-05-19 10:17:58 UTC-07:00
Not enough hands to juggle everything I have to do here at work! :)

Doodle.


Jayme wrote:Very well put, Doodle bug. By the way, just how many hands do you
have?

PJTJP



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Doodle & Deedle Bug
wrote:
>
>
> My reflections....merely reflections. On one hand, newer
searchers want to learn, to hunt, to be the best at the hobby that
they can be. To jump in with both feet as quickly as possible. But
true, to be good takes experience and time. Although Deedle & I
have only found 10 boxes (as compared to people in the 100 + club)
we can already tell just how much better we are at interpretting
clues. We enjoy and reflect on everything we learn the more we go
out & search (ie, ALWAYS take water with you, no matter how short a
search you think it will be!). On one hand, some would probably
consider us still newbies with a small found count, only been
actively searching for about a month now. On the other hand (and I
now have three hands, but I AM a doodle bug) we did find out about
the hobby about six months ago, and we spent those months learning
about stamp carving and where to find clues and what's "expected"
when you find a box (and waiting for Ohio's snow to melt). So who's
to say
> when one leaves "newbie" status and becomes an "elder"...from our
experiences on the trails, it's more of an internal journey. Moving
from "newbie" to "experienced" is something that you must determine
yourself, no one else can for you. You can't necessarily go by
number count -- one person may have found 50 boxes, another only 15,
but if every one of those 15 were mystery boxes with hard-to-
decipher clues as opposed to the 50 more-easily interpretted clues,
who has the more experience? And on another hand ;), if you rush to
get that high count you miss what I've interpretted the whole point
of letterboxing really should be...not to find hidden rubber
containers and fill up your logbook, but to explore new places you
would never think of, or didn't know existed.
>
> But the real paradox I find about letterboxing is getting started
and the secret nature of boxing. In the spirit of letterboxing, one
might think that someone who truly "gets it" would appreciate the
hunt for the hows and whys of the hobby. But, it's also nice to
have mentors, people to help you when you're not sure where to find
the answers. That doesn't mean spoon-feed, but point us in the
right direction. I'm greatful to everyone who has helped Deedle &
me get started in letterboxing. If it really were as much of an
undercover, secret society as I've inferred from some posts on this
list, then what's really the point? Letterboxing is social,
otherwise why would there be so many letterbox gatherings? Because
we do want to meet each other and hear each other's tales. The more
people who letterbox, the more people to meet. As someone put it in
a previous post, we really do need to help pull people up with us.
Otherwise it will be very lonely at the top. That doens't mean
> drag them along, but point them in the direction so they can get
their on their own.
>
> And that brings to the final paradox, if everything about
letterboxing is a hidden mystery, how does one even find out about
letterboxing to get started in the first place? :) (Ours was that
we stumbled upon a clue in cyberspace)
>
> Now everyone hold hands and sing Kumbaya! (Oooh, has anyone done
a Kumbaya letterbox yet?)
>
> Doodle Bug.
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
> SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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